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Welcome to /ic/. If you are looking to hone your creative skills, please consult these general resources:

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And don't forget to HEED THE RULES

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If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com

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Yeah this shit isnt coming along at all.
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>>7156333
Interesting pose with minor flaws +1 INT point
Horrific hands -1 INT point
Interesting color choice +1 INT point
lazy symbol drawn eyes -1 INT point
absolute failure to capture gesture in one of the most common gesture poses (baseball batter follow-through) -999 int points

CRAB-0-TRON ANALYSIS: BEG!
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>>7156333
/beg/ has a lot of stages divided by two main groups being Drawing and Painting generally, can you say you're intermediate if you dominate the figure but can't draw a background? Can you say you're intermediate if you can paint the Mona Lisa but can't do a gesture figure? Course not.
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>>7156341
>>7156340
I mean dogshit like this >>7156335
that isn't even good enough to be graded
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>>7156324
thanks guys, guess im closer to my comic than I thought. Wanna make a western horror against the backdrop of something similar to the Eureka stockade, set in Australia
>>7156325
Ill give that a go, that sounds like i good way to train
>>7156329
If your getting sore from drawing then your probably holding your pen wrong unfortunately, theres probably some videso online
>>7155881
Good effort with the pose, Ive still got no idea how to properly draw perspective without a direct ref, that shits hard af
>>7156335
based idea, although I dont know if the characters are proportionate to where the ground should be,

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>complaining
edition

>What is /fag/?
This is the Furry Art General thread, here we post everything related to kemono, furry, and animals alike.

>Rules & Guidelines
Please refrain from flaming, causing drama or replying/feeding those who cause such.
This is a SFW thread only, please take caution so you don't get BANNED for posting NSFW art.
This general is NOT and NEVER will be affiliated with any discord servers, DO NOT click any of the discord links that are spammed here!
As always, don't be afraid to ask for critique!

>Resources
https://www.lackadaisycats.com/ishkabibble.php
https://x6ud.github.io/

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>>7155845
cool mermay
its nice seeing some creativity instead of the same old generic fish bottom half
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>>7155850
post blog if you have one.
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>>7155637
Please post blog link or gallery if you have one, your art is an inspiration
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>>7156127
@HorniestGhost on Twit/Bluesky/FA

And thank you!
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>>7153097
Splendid.

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Does random doodling, in your opinion, improve your drawing skills to any significant degree? You're not practicing strict observation, precise lines, correct proportions, difficult perspective, rendering, or anything that seems to approach true learning. If you're out at a restaurant somewhere, is it worth taking out your sketchbook and doodling the people you see around you, or is that just a meme from the Disney days?
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>>7156284
A significant degree? No. But keeping up the daily motor skills, even if you aren't striving towards improvement, will only help you keep the routine of art, which isn't bad. But doodling too much, like without focus, direction, observation, etc., can be stagnating. You'll end up with Chris Chan art.
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>is it worth taking out your sketchbook and doodling the people you see around you
yeah, that's still improves your observation and visual library
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>>7156284
are you stupid? Drawing people your see around you in real life is studying
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>>7156339
it's not precise. you're only getting a glance.

if you think that's enough to truly study a subject, you must not be good at drawing

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I'm going to be honest. I care DEEPLY about social media engagement when it comes to my art. As far as I'm concerned, if my work doesn't get enough likes, it's bad art.
Yes, I draw for clout
Yes, I draw for followers
Yes, I draw for approval and validation
Why the fuck else would I even bother posting anything online?
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>>7155343
Based
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>>7155344
You'd still care about numbers, they would just have a different name.
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>>7155343
I draw for my own self-satisfaction, rather than anything deep like 'communication'. I don't see it as being any better or worse than your reasoning honestly, it's not noble or anything.
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>>7155343
i just want to make friends honestly. i’d rather have 5 followers who all draw as well and talk to me about my ocs (while having interesting ocs of their own) than 1 million followers who i don’t even know. that’s my motivation for art personally, to communicate in ways i can’t with words or to otherwise supplement my lack of charisma. i don’t mean to imply i have some deep shit inside of me either, i just want to draw traps in artsy ways
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>>7156031
>enuff
for what though? how is that a real issue vs chasing clout/likes?

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Thread to study little boys. Post your art, discuss artists, and post resources related to the subject of cute little boys.

Rules:
>Do not take the bait or derail. Don't be a sperg.
>Only post SFW shota, link NSFW and suggestive from catbox. Don't post real life references.
>Don't fight about different male body types, shota. Nobody cares.
>No femboy/trans/traps/futa. Go to /salt/ for that.
>No tits, no coochies, no female body ratio.
>Don't sperg if a feminine male (not femboy) is posted, ignore if it's not your cup of tea, keep in mind the nature of stylization and simplification in anime and cartoon art styles before you choose to derail the thread, though crit is welcome like always.
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>>7154615
https://files.catbox.moe/w24dji.png
Came back and fixed some proportion errors. Honestly I think I'm gonna call it quits and say I had a good practice run with this piece. I need to move on and do more perspective and urban setting practice.
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Rendering pink skin is pretty weird. You can’t move to red colors when it’s time to draw shadows. Feels like it’s impossible to not make it look muddy
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>>7155841
To be sincere, I know next to nothing regarding color theory (much less about digital painting), but, from what I can gather, when applying three-tone shading to an opaque surface, the latter's color palette (values aside) would be mainly influenced by three factors: the base hue, the color of the lightsource, and the predominant hue of the surrounding environment.

On this subject, the Youtube videos by artist Marco Bucci have been extremely helpful in giving me a new awareness of the different properties of color, as well as of the manner in which they simultaneously interact with both light and shadow:

https://youtu.be/kYtGh2xTAlg

https://youtu.be/gwLQ0cDb4cE

Roughly summarizing the content of the few videos that I have watched so far, in order to establish a three-tone color palette for a character's skin, you should start by determining its base hue (i.e., that of the halftone areas), and then proceed to select the color of your lightsource.

After that, with respect to the color of the highlights, it would have to be a somewhat intermediate/transitional hue between the base one and that of the lightsource.

If, for example, you were to pick a yellow hue for the latter, depending on its intensity, the color options for the highlights on Beelzebub's skin could go from a reddish pink to an orangey yellow.


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>>7156247
>>7155841
I forgot the mention that there's also the alternative of color-picking highligths and shadows directly from references, and then making adjustments to the hues and values according to your personal taste.

For example, in the case of Beelzebub, you could use scans of the original colored illustrations by Toriyama, screenshots from either the game or the anime, or even photographs of figurines.
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>>7156305
>Toriyama coloring
I don't recommend it. Most mangakas in general suck at this

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When I normally draw, I get something like the left. The vertical line looks almost perfectly vertical to me. But as soon as I flip my canvas, the vertical line looks ridiculously tilted like the right.

I'm assuming to most anons looking at this, both faces' vertical construction lines have the same tilt angle.

So is it just because my actual eyes aren't centered properly? One of my eyes might be a bit higher than the other, does this mean my art is always going to be fucked? Or do I just lack practice?
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>>7155122
>semantic memory impairment
>there is selective loss of semantic memory, characterized by preservation of superordinate knowledge of words, and objects, but loss of finer-grained information
christ this describes me to a t.

but the image says "conceptual deficit" for c and d which are tilted like mine. which is it?
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>>7154211
funny enough symmetric poses are the most boring imho
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>>7155225
whats also interesting is that analog clocks are going by the wayside since all phones have digital clocks in them, and so people are talking about what to do if this becomes a no longer viable test due to cultural shifts.
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>>7154211
Try placing a true vertical line in the center of the page before you start drawing as a reference point for your eyes to compare your lines to. You can use a ruler for it. It's not "cheating" because it isn't actually part of any drawing, just a visual anchor point.
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>>7156314
>It's not cheating
Thank you, this is a concept that I need to hammer into my head. I'm not a superhuman, and even if some people can do perfect symmetry, I'm not one of them. And even if it were cheating, I'd cheat. I want to draw! Simple as.

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>Finally making over 1000 dollars per month on Patreon passively
>not counting the money I make from Commissions
Bros...We're all gonna fuckin' make it
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>>7156328
coom? I can't do that, Jesus wouldn't like it.

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1: Post a brief backstory if your OC has one.

2: Character design critique and discussion is welcome.

3: For SFW content please go to the OC redraw threads.

4: This is NOT a request thread. Artist Only. No spamming OC/infodumps for multiple threads without delivering.

5: Be sure to thank Drawfrens for their hard work as soon as you can, it's just common courtesy :^)

6: Avoid off-topic discussions and DO NOT respond to bait posts.

7: Leave all the chit-chat out unless to thank drawfrens. Draw more and talk less.

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>>7151268
Pretty fair, just because something is coom doesn't mean it can't have too much thought poured into it
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>>7132067
>tfw 2 right hands
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Odette Bertillon (Warhammer 40k oc), chief medicae, in her 30's and a control freak
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>>7145665
Looks incredible, thank you.

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The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related comic work. That said, everyone is welcome here.

Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.
Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).
Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.

Previous thread: >>7126841

Some resources:
/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asg

Books:
Understanding Comics
Making Comics
Manga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Manga

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>>7156162
>First, congratulations again man. You really did it. But why is it time sensitive? Is it just the publisher trying to create some kind of FOMO? Seems like such an odd thing to limit since it's standard visual media you read as opposed to, say, a Fortnite/Call of Duty skin or the like.
I don't know, but if I had to guess it's because it stems from magazines being the FOMO early-bird version while the tankoubon are the permanent release for people can wait
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>>7156168
Ok, that's a clearer picture I get it now.
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>haven't actually studied so I don't know japanese very well
Not that anon, but the other day i found out about lingodeer, and actually i found it very good for learning, because after some leasons they explain you about gramatics and different readings and that kind of stuff, so you should at least give it a try(and to be honest i'm using the premium mod apk since it looks costly as fuck, and the montly subscription is like one month of csp ex) so that can tell you that it's good
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Finally changed the first chapter to occidental way of reading, I just need to put the english text on it. That manga reading was getting on my nerves. Anyway, I took the chance to retouch some panels too.
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>>7156089
Gonna have to purchase and jack off to it out of respect.

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Rules:
>Draw every day (or your preferred frequency)
>Submit your work by 23:59:59 GMT
>Spend at least 30 minutes on each submission
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And after this accidental leak we had another chapter that shows Tonkers was addicted to smoking. We can't help but to infer that this is due to him trying to distract himself from the memory of what he had done. However, Tub catches him smoking but the ever quick thinking Tonkers played it off as if the cigarrettes were just candy cigarretes.
Had the leak never happened, even we might have been fooled, but now we know that Tonker's leisurely demeanor is just a facade.
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>>7155718
>>7155701
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU3_ZxG52Hw
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>>7155701
Instead of bashing my head I'm going to bash my balls and see if it has the same effect
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>>7156104
Yes, all the deniers are silent now.

>>7156109
Your kids will be genious artists and most likley page one Dad'ers if you smash them hard enough.
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>>7156109

See what you can do in a set limit of time. Pic related don in about an hour and a half.
What can you do in between 1 and 2 hours? Post results here!
Get to drawin!
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>>7154922
Sorry, forgot to rotate it.
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Back again with an hour long drawing. I always loved the jungle dinosaur and cave man pulp ideas. I also am not a fan of the current obsession with feathers on every dinosaur. I much prefer the more reptilian form for large dinosaurs. I even enjoy drawing many theropods having crocodilian lile scutes on their necks as a way to protect themselves from other theropods and aggressive mates.
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>>7155267
One thing i forgot to mention and would like to improve is the texture of my drawings i do not like how muddy my shading is, but im not sure i completely a fan of cell shading and similar styles either. I like how manga ink work looks but that is just a genteral statement as i dont have an exact style in mind. Not to mention that there are plenty of incredible greyscale inked western works. I suppose we shall see.
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This was a very quick 30 minute sketch. It is not great in its executions, as i dont know how to draw cute girls. But i do like the composition and the lighting well enough. Another hope of mine is to draw the female form with ease and without a need for ecxessive adjustments in order for the form to be usable
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>>7156310
Id also would like to add that the idea of this is Anon's girl is waiting for his call. Hes busy making it, but his girl is all alone missing him.

>browsing booru
>spot the hardest image imaginable
>check source
>"Page not found"


Why do they do this?
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>>7156126
Holy attention starved
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>>7155177
Maybe if the artist weren't a bigot or a nonce
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>>7155116
I delete 99% of my work because they are bad senpai.
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>>7155213
>do_you_have_the_slightest_idea_how_little_that_narrows _it _down.jpg
But Jelloapocolypse would be my guess
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>>7155183
>removed from danbooru
read OP again the booru works are there but the original source is deleted

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I want to draw but I have 0 idea of what i should draw right now
>Draw what made you want to start drawing
That is way, way above my skill level
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>>7156296
>That is way, way above my skill level
Not an excuse.

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Is the art industry doing well right now (i.e. gaming, vfx, etc industry wise?)
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>>7155943
>Not blaming females and globomo
Kill yourself jewish nigger
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>>7155890

JUST PUT OUT SOME TPBS OR GRAPHIC NOVELS. JUST HAVE ORGANIZED COLLECTIONS. JUST BUNDLE NEW STORIES IN A MAGAZINE! JUST DO WHAT THE JAPANESE DO. THE BUSINESS MODEL IS RIGHT THERE!!! YOU DON'T HAVE TO INVENT ANYTHING NEW. JUST RIP OFF THE JAPANESE! WHY IS THIS SO COMPLICATED!?!?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...
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>>7156267
>JUST RIP OFF THE JAPANESE!
Shonen Jump puts out a new magazine every week, which costs $1 at most, is available at nearly every convenience store in the country (unlike our specialized, expensive comic shops), and are each 150+ pages. You get access to the newest chapter of your favorite stories, and you also discover new series that you would've never heard of. In America, each series is published in an individual leaflet. If you want to discover a new series, you need to risk $5 on something totally unknown, and may be of questionable quality. It's very very hard to discover new things in the way the current American comic model is set up. This is probably why Webtoons is so popular. It's not because it's on your phone, or because it costs less (it doesn't. their paywall is very steep) It's because it's very very easy to find new series.

Finding new creators and stories is the surest path towards the health of the comic book industry. We need to make that easier.
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>>7156276
>Shonen Jump puts out a new magazine every week, which costs $1 at most
No need to even do that, just make the current floppies $1 and distribute them to more places than fucking speciality stores.
And for god's sakes, make the comics for kids! Why they thought catering only to adults and leaving kids by the wayside was a smart idea is far beyond me. Who was supposed to grow up as a comic fan if they didn't have comics to read as child because they were all violent and 'mature'.
Do you know what currently the most popular, and financially successful, western comics currently are? Kids comics.

Hell, just do ANYTHING other than what they're currently doing. The leaders of these comic companies are genuinely the most incompetent business leaders there have ever been. There is likely never been a case of a business fumbling a golden opportunity (the movie fad) so hard and for so long. How they didn't capitalise on that situation in the slightest is genuinely astounding.
Business students will be taught this in the future and say out loud 'what the fuck were those retards doing!?', like I am right now!.
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>>7156298
I agree with what you're saying, but I just feel like the change needed is too big. We're talking about remodelling the entire infrastructure of the comics industry.

Faster to just learn Japanese and publish my manga that way, desu


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